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Why can't Dwolla send to Mt Gox?

Started by Bitcoin, Jul 13, 2020, 06:56 am

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I received the following after trying to make a USD deposit to Mt. Gox from Dwolla today. Does anyone know more information about this or if the court order may apply to other methods of deposit/withdraw?
You're receiving this notice because our systems have indicated that you've processed and completed a real-time Dwolla-to-Dwolla payment to Mutum Sigillum LLC ("Mt. Gox") within the last 24 hours.
Due to recent court orders received from the Department of Homeland Security and U.S. District Court for the District of Maryland, Dwolla is no longer legally able to service Mutum Sigillum LLC's account.
This is a courtesy email encouraging you to follow up on any uncompleted orders with Mutum Sigillum LLC as Dwolla is now unable to move money to and from Mutum Sigillum LLC's Dwolla account.
Dwolla is not party to this matter nor does it have any information or further insight into the situation. We strongly encourages those with questions to contact Mutum Sigillum LLC.
Note: Dwolla requires a court order before honoring requests such as seizing funds or revoking access to an account.
On behalf of Dwolla, we apologize for this inconvenience.
Here's what I got back thus far after contacting Mt. Gox to ask about the situation. Looks like they will make a formal announcement about it:
Thank you for the email. We can see that the Dwolla transactions are not getting processed right now. We will contact Dwolla and post an announcement regarding this. Your patience is appreciated till then.
Thanks, Team.
Update 2:
The balance that I transferred in on the morning of 05/14 was added to my MtGox account that evening, so it appears they are still honoring the transfers that went through before the lockdown.
Update 3:
Here's the current statement from Mt. Gox (still waiting for the real reason for the court order):
MtGox has read on the Internet that the United States Department of Homeland Security had a court order and/or warrant issued from the United States District Court in Maryland which it served upon the Dwolla mobile payment service with respect to accounts used for trading with MtGox. MtGox takes this information seriously. However, as of this time MtGox has not been provided with a copy of the court order and/or warrant and does not know its scope and/or the reasons for its issuance. MtGox is investigating and will provide further reports when additional information becomes known.
Regards Mt.Gox Co. Ltd Team.
3 Answers 3.
Mutum Sigillum LLC was the legal entity that Mt. Gox used for transferring funds using account-to-account transfers and for adding to (and withdrawing from) their account using bank funds.
Mutum Sigillum LLC is not registered as a money transmitter in any states.
It may not even be registered as a Money Service Business (MSB) through FinCEN.
FinCEN provided guidance that those exchanging "virtual currencies" (which they misapply, but intend to refer also to Bitcoin) for dollars are money transmitters and required to register.
This action by the DHS may be related to that.
Or it could be related to the Bitcoinica lawsuit in which Mt. Gox is holding funds of Bitcoinica customers that the court-appointed liquidator in New Zealand has requested access to.
Or it could be related to any number of additional factors, including a single illicit transaction in which the funds traveled through Mt. Gox, who knows.
As of 12:13pm on 5/14/2013, the U.S. District Court for the District of Maryland issued a "Seizure Warrant" for the funds associated with Mutum Sigilum's Dwolla account (a.k.a. Mt. Gox). In light of this court order, procured by the Department of Homeland Security, Dwolla has ceased all account activities associated with Dwolla services for Mutum Sigilum.
So the outcome looks something like this:
Holders of dollars at MtGox will buy as many btc as possible and remove them from MtGox, because there's no other escape for their dollars Holders of btc at MtGox will presumably send them elsewhere because selling them for dollars doesn't make sense if you can't get the dollars out (although perhaps it still makes sense for euros/pounds/yen etc) There is a loss of liquidity at Gox from all the btc being pulled from there The dollar price at other exchanges starts falling because they are still exit points for dollars.
Most of the trading volume is in dollars at Gox if I'm not mistaken, so this might be the death blow for them. Although given their history of incompetence, it was kind of sad the network effect was protecting them. Perhaps a phoenix will rise from the ashes.